Sunday, May 27, 2007

Louis Pasteur, Hero of Science

Previously we have looked at the creationist claims that Louis Pasteur is on their side (here). Recently I have purchased a copy of Louis Pasteur: The Man and his Theories which was at the center of the controversy here. I would like to elaborate further on the contributions of Pasteur, and re-address the controversy concerning his pro-evolution quote.

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First, Pasteur is famous for many contributions to microbiology, including his experiments showing that the microbes that cause fermentation and food decay are living organisms that generate from other living organisms. Before Pasteur, there had been considerable debate as to what caused fermentation. Pasteur showed conclusively that the microbes that cause it generate from parent microbes, and that they do no appear spontaneously. Did Pasteur prove that spontaneous generation is impossible in all possible circumstances? No, of course not. Pasteur did not test all possible circumstances! That would have been impossible. He tested only sample circumstances that were representative of his world, and applicable to his study of fermentation and decay. That does not prove that life could not have originated on its own in circumstances that differ with the tests done by Pasteur. In Pasteur's own words,

I looked for spontaneous generation without finding it, but I do not believe it to be impossible. (Source: Louis Pasteur: The Man and his Theories, p 90)

Pasteur did not prove that spontaneous generation is impossible. Does that make his findings worthless? No, of course not. He had overwhelming evidence that, in normal circumstances, spontaneous generation did not occur. Therefore, we can control fermentation, decay, and infection by controlling the presence of existing microbes. For instance, Pasteur wrote:

If I had the honour of being a surgeon, convinced as I am of the dangers of which we are exposed by the microbial germs on the surfaces of all the objects about us, especially in hospitals, not only would I use absolutely clean instruments but, after washing my hands with the greatest care and submitting them to momentary contact with a flame... I would use no lint, bandages or sponges which had not been exposed to air at a temperature of 130 deg to 150 deg. (ibid., p168-169)

The circumstances faced by modern surgeons are quite different from the world as it existed billions of years ago. Today oxygen and other life forms will destroy precursor materials to bacterial life. Billions of years ago, there was little oxygen and no pre-existing life to destroy those chemicals. Yes, understanding the origin of life is still a big hurdle, and scientists still do not understand exactly how it happened. But they have no reason to believe it did not happen on its own.
Of course we have reasons to believe certain views of how life originated might be wrong. Years ago I had argued for creation on the Internet, but I quickly gave up on young-earth creation after I saw it was indefensible. Instead, I turned to a prolonged defence of the view that God was required for that first step in the origin of life. My argument was centered on an early prevailing view, that life began as proteins that evolved in a primordial soup until they became living cells. And I think I made a convincing case that this was unlikely. In fact, I think I won! That was the only battle I won as a creationist debater. But then someone pointed out to me that I had presented a good case only against one view--the protein-first view--and that this view was no longer the prevailing hypotheses. To win the argument, I would need to prove that all possible means for the spontaneous origination of life were unlikely. That I could never do. So I abandoned the fight.

We still do not know how life originated, although we have made much progress in studying the problem. The latest issue of Scientific American, for instance, includes an article describing how simple self-replicating molecules may have started the process.

Showing that life does not originate spontaneously in a modern garbage dump by no means proves that it could not have originated in far different circumstances over millions of years.
Pasteur studied the issue of spontaneous generation to find the truth. He wrote:

Religions, philosophies, atheism, materialism, or its opposite--none of these is relevant ot the matter...I might even add that, scientifically speaking, I am indifferent to them all. The question is purely one of fact. I approached it without preconceived ideas, as ready to admit, should experience compel me to do so, that spontaneous generation existed. (ibid, p 89)


This is the true essence of science: the honest search for truth, regardless of what it means to one's preconceived ideas.

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Now let's look again at the controversial quote:

Virulence appears in a new light which cannot but be alarming to humanity; unless nature, in her evolution down the ages (an evolution which, as we now know, has been going on for millions, nay, hundreds of millions of years), has finally exhausted all the possibilities of producing virulent or contagious diseases -- which does not seem very likely. (ibid, p. 122)


The controversy is whether the parenthetical phrase mentioning millions of years was actually written by Pasteur. At this blog, "Honey" argues that the book that this quote comes from sometimes inserts words in parenthesis that do not appear in the original quote. Further, she points out that an almost identical quote appears at The Life and Works of Louis Pasteur, but it does not have the phrase in parentheses. I have paged through that book, and it is indeed possible that some of the comments in parenthesis look as though they may be explanatory material added by a translator or commentator, but I do not know. Particularly, I cannot tell if the phrase in question is part of the original quote or not. Accordingly, I have noted that on the web page where I quote it.

The main point is that Pasteur promoted the teaching of evolution in that passage. I assume that Pasteur also believed that the earth was millions of years old, but I have no direct proof of that.

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In closing, here is another quote from Pasteur:

If I had to live my life over again, I would try always to remember that admirable precept of Bossuet: "The greatest disorder of the mind is to believe that things are so because we wish them to be so."


Pasteur was truly a mind set free!

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

Free from what?

PLEASE READ THIS PAGE:
http://www.woodrow.org/teachers/ci/1992/Pasteur.html

…and then please let us know exactly what it was that Pasteur was free from after all those years of scientific observation.

And further, you (Merle) provide us with this closing quote from Pasteur:

"If I had to live my life over again, I would try always to remember that admirable precept of Bossuet: "The greatest disorder of the mind is to believe that things are so because we wish them to be so."


BUT YOU JUST SAID PRIOR and I quote:

“Yes, understanding the origin of life is still a big hurdle, and scientists still do not understand exactly how it happened. But they have no reason to believe it did not happen on its own.”

So the reality is, that you want us to disregard what God says in the Bible, for which there were numerous witnesses (of Christ’s life and resurrection from the dead – and Christ himself attests to the truth of the Old Testament Law and Prophets), and replace it with something THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR. There are two reasons to believe it did not happen on its own – 1. God said He created it. 2. No matter how hard we try we cannot make it happen.

You also said, and I quote:

“To win the argument, I would need to prove that all possible means for the spontaneous origination of life were impossible. That I could never do. So I abandoned the fight.”

How do you reason that you have to prove anything? The proof is in the Bible. If they want to claim differently then THEY SHOULD PROVIDE PROOF that their belief is correct. Christians have the Bible – atheists have nothing.


We had a painter here in Australia, ‘Pro Hart’, who was the first painter to ever put his own dna signature on his paintings (and who interestingly enough was a Christian). The signature can’t be detected by the human eye alone. God likewise has marked His creation, which is evident to those who use the Bible as the instrument through which to observe His creation, and which is available to anyone who is prepared to put their trust in God for the answers. This is the only proof Christians need.

Now, think carefully for a moment about how illogical and unscientific this ‘spontaneous life’ dilemma really is. How is it that scientists can suggest numerous possibilities, none of which, even under the most favorable of synthesized conditions, can actually produce life, but they can then turn round and expect Christians to accept these possibilities on the grounds of SCIENCE! If your foundation is science, and yet you can’t prove your theory scientifically sound and expect intelligent others to discard their beliefs, then YOU’D BETTER GET REAL ABOUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE.

Let me close with a quote from Bossuet
"The greatest disorder of the mind is to believe that things are so because we wish them to be so."

Honey